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Adam Saitowitz's avatar

I was just looking at this company, so this deep dive is very timely. I was thinking about things like the strange situation with "compounders", or whatever they are called, making legal knockoffs of the weight drugs. Will oral weight drugs happen and take off? Will Novo be the one to make them. This way of thinking about R&D and capex as growth engines and not just an expense is interesting. As a slight counter: as a company grows wealthy, it has more money to throw at new ideas. Is it more successful at picking the new ideas? Will the research pan out, just because more resources are going towards it. I would point towards Meta and the buckets it has thrown at virtual reality, which still seems to have as much practical application as crypto at this point. I don't know how to make a paragraph break in a comment. Back to pharmaceutical companies, the industry has a known issue of, we don't know how to figure out the next great products. Maybe AI augmented research will get us there. Suffice it to say, seeing Novo Nordisk as a significant percentage of its country's gdp is astounding. Your article was food for thought for this company and others. Awesome.

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Girish Daga's avatar

Regardless, growth capex or maintenance this would be included in a DCF so the value per share you will arrive at will be much lower than "hypothetical FCF". You can capitalise R&D, estimate useful life and then ammortise it, which will be a way better metric to uplift earnings (and FCF) but any cash investment into Capex or R&D needs to go through the cashflow statement.

For drugs there is no steady state FCF. You could try and model each drug's FCF and then value Novo on a SOTP basis. The steady state value that you would derive by assuming zero growth and using "maintenance R&D and Capex" would vastly overstate the value for a biotech. Usually drugs have a 20-year patent life + potential market exclusivity. Even to maintain a drug such as wegovy or ozempic would require R&D > assumed maintenance R&D.

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